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Under Pressure
Sometimes it's useful to read things for yourself. You know that media accounts of the SSCI report say it exonerates the Bush administration of allegations that they pressured analysts. As I've emphasized before, this conclusion is at odds with a very large number of press accounts, so I'd be interested to know what the evidence is for the conclusion that all these reporters got things wrong. Turn to page 284 and you'll see that the case is airtight:
Conclusion 83. The Committee did not find any evidence that administration officials attempted to coerce, influence or presssure analysts to change their judgments related to Iraq's weapons of mass destruction capabilities.That's good enough for me![Redacted paragraph]
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Conclusion 84. The Committee found no evidence that the Vice President's visits to the Central Intelligence Agency were attempts to pressure analysts, were perceived as intended to pressure analysts by those who participated in the briefings on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs, or did pressure analysts to change their assessments.
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[End of pressure discussion]
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evidence? what, are you some kind of loony atheist? you don't need evidence, you just need faith.
Posted by: cleek | Jul 12, 2004 10:35:19 AM
The defense being played currently by repubs revolves around the belief that the republican base and undecideds will not look too closely at the reports. It's weak, but it's the best they can do, cause the facts are against them, at almost any level of detail.
The reality is they have no defense. A couple good stories in national news magazines/papers, clearly explaingin the details and some mini docs in the TV news magazines will break the backs of the water carriers. Watch and see. No water carriers, no defense. Cheney and Bush are no good without a crowd around them.
Posted by: patience | Jul 12, 2004 10:51:27 AM
Matt, this is good, good, good! You gave me my first laugh-out-loud moment of the day.
Posted by: janeboatler | Jul 12, 2004 11:02:18 AM
As Office Barbrady might say: nothing to read hear; move right on.
thelrd in TEXAS
Posted by: Larry Davis | Jul 12, 2004 11:06:02 AM
Look at this CNN story:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/11/senate.pentagon/index.html
"In fact, Roberts said, much information about Curveball was redacted, or blacked out, from the version of the report that was made public.
"'I can't really tell you some of the more specific details that would make your eyebrows even raise higher,' Roberts said."
For my glib take on the institutional pressures that Cheney put on CIA:
http://andersonblog.blogspot.com/2004_07_11_andersonblog_archive.html#108964690003976569
Posted by: Andy | Jul 12, 2004 11:38:02 AM
Again, will someone tell them that 1984 is not a how-to manual?
Posted by: Rob | Jul 12, 2004 12:01:59 PM
Outstanding work!
Posted by: DJW | Jul 12, 2004 12:46:18 PM
RE: "Under Pressure"
viz., your end-line, "That's good enough for me!"
A small observation:
In a year in which so much is at stake, I'm beginning to wonder if the liberal tendency to sarcasm might actually be self-defeating at some point? (And it's not just you, Matt -- every prominent liberal consistently does it, of course, e.g. Josh at TPM, Kevin at Political Animal.)
Everybody likes a joke, don't get me wrong. And sometimes it's a whole lot better to laugh than to despair. But when this jokiness becomes a reflexive behavior, perhaps it's time to look at underlying motivations.
Sure, you can argue that this reflexive flight to sarcassm is just reflective of the overall powerlessness of liberal institutions and policy generally when facing down the onslaught of Bush admininistration wrong-doing (your faint protest is duly noted for its ineffectuality, btw). But is there more to it than this?
Is it possible that liberal commentators do not wish to appear unseemly (even dangerously earnest) by being genuinely and consistently outraged? Is it possible that they don't want to be embarrassed by taking a morally principled stand and so opt instead for sarcasm to show they "get it" but are also above it all at the same time?
By refusing to beat the drum in a coordinated and consistent fashion, do liberal commentators wish to avoid being thought as shrill and unseemly as (*gasp*) an outraged Republican?
And while I concede that no one pulls off fake outrage quite like a conservative Republican commentator (the drama queen Andrew Sullivan leaps immediately to mind), I do wonder if it might not be an effective galvanizing force for liberals to harness the raw power of this untapped moral outrage and focus it around one or two overarching issues rather than dissipate their objections in a malaise of impotent toothless sarcasm about the outrage de jeur.
Pick a topic, you know? The $700 million bait-and-switch. The Senate Intelligence Committee's insistence on not completing the report on possible Bush Admin culpability in manipulating intel until *after* the election. The outing of the CIA agent that no one in the White House seems to care enough to get to the bottom to. How Ahmed Chalabi played everyone for fools and now we aren't doing anything about a dangerous threat to national security b/c it might embarrass someone (or everyone) in the administration? The repeated insistence by the Bush Administration that there were substantive links to al Qaeda when both the Senate Intelligence Committee and the 9/11 Commission say there weren't. The president and the DOJ arbitrarily deciding that the executive is above the law and has powers that are "inherent in the president", whatever that might mean.
There's much to be genuinely outraged about with this Bush Administration. And yes, I realize that this stance, too, can eventually become merely a pose if it is overplayed (and btw, I do not mean the shrill petulant hand-wringing of a Clinton impeachment officer, but rather the deep moral outrage at the injustices and wrong-doing that has been so consistently displayed by this administration).
But wouldn't you rather make a stand and demonstrate through your forceful commentary that you'd rather be thought a person of consequence who cares enough to keep hammering away at injustice than just a jokey flip B-grade political comic who gets off a zinger now and again? Perhaps, as The Onion facetiously reported (reality is outstripping satire, yet again), America's liberals really *do* suffer from outrage fatigue?
What's the answer, then? Perhaps you might consider a few less end-lines that show how snarky you can be, Matt, and a few more that make a call to action or galvanize opposition on moral grounds.
This is one of the most deeply immoral administrations ever. It seems sort of a shame to squander a perfectly good basis of objection just b/c liberals tend to want to show they "get it" by being snarky and sarcastic, don't you think?
dr
Posted by: David Richey | Jul 12, 2004 1:38:03 PM
I'm admitedly in the dark about the inner workings of such things, but, if there were something fishy about the redactions, couldn't (wouldn't?) the Democrats on the committee have refused to sign off? Any beltway insiders care to clue in us unwashed provincials?
Posted by: P.B. Almeida | Jul 12, 2004 1:59:42 PM
The senate committee found as much evidence for pressuring the CIA as they did for intelligence supporting WMDs in Iraq.
Only one of these is notable though.
Which one, of course, depends on which side you'd rather call names.
Posted by: Jaybird | Jul 12, 2004 2:02:48 PM
David, I think Matt has called for his readers to vote for Kerry on at least one occasion.
Posted by: scarshapedstar | Jul 12, 2004 3:24:41 PM
PB, Rockefeller stated that the Dems agreed to sign the report with the understanding that the administration's role would be taken up in phase two.
Posted by: praktike | Jul 12, 2004 3:26:38 PM
"PB, Rockefeller stated that the Dems agreed to sign the report with the understanding that the administration's role would be taken up in phase two."
I see. thanks, praktike.
Posted by: P.B. Almeida | Jul 12, 2004 3:30:52 PM
How do you pronounce SSCI?
Sickie?
Posted by: wvmcl | Jul 12, 2004 3:37:27 PM
"PB, Rockefeller stated that the Dems agreed to sign the report with the understanding that the administration's role would be taken up in phase two."
I see. So if Bush is re-elected but democrats get a majority in Congress, this will be the lead-in to impeachment.
If Bush loses they can go after him or not, it won't matter so much.
And if Bush wins and the Republicans still have a Senate majority there isn't much the Democrats can do then anyway.
Posted by: J Thomas | Jul 12, 2004 7:11:48 PM
Matt, you don't understand.
The new standard of evidence is that a claim, though never proved, has never been refuted.
MoveOn could run an ad:
"The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence never refuted that Dick Cheney
was applying undue pressure to our intelligence services."
Posted by: TheJew | Jul 12, 2004 8:33:13 PM
Follow-up to previous post above entitled "RE: Under Pressure":
*******
I do, however, think it's in part the fact that Greenwald and Moore are liberals that leaves Kurtz and others feeling more empowered to dissect their facts and slants. Conservatives would mount a much fiercer outcry if this kind of scrunity were applied to them.
--Nick Confessore
Posted at 11:20 AM
*****
Excerpted from last graf of a Confessore post on Tapped (about a non-related issue that happens to speak to my point about liberals' reflexive use of sarcasm).
Second sentence above makes the point about conservatives mounting a fiercer outcry when subjected to scrutiny (being at bottom hypocritical crybabies more often than not).
In an oblique manner, this point about conservatives mounting a fiercer outcry when challenged or alarmed by malfeasance goes to the point about how liberals routinely slough off outrages with impotent sarcasm.
Perhaps liberals ought to "mount a fiercer outcry" instead of relying so heavily on toothless sarcasm?
dr
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