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An Advisory

It was recently brought to my attention that my grandparents, strongly pro-Kerry Jews like so many others, who split their time between the great, but decidedly non-swing, state of New York, and the less great, but decidedly more swingy, state of Florida are still registered to vote in New York. I am encouraging them to rectify this situation, and I would encourage other readers who may have similarly situated family members to do the same. Those votes aren't needed on Great Neck.

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Comments

What about in Lake Success?

Posted by: theCoach | Aug 17, 2004 12:39:30 PM

People come here for all the benefits that a Red State provides, low taxes, inexpensive cost of living...but want to vote like Blue Staters. Keep 'em.

Posted by: j.scott barnard | Aug 17, 2004 12:56:46 PM

Benefits the Red State provides: nuns with guns, hijacker schools, cane toads, Jeb Bush, etc. Screw J. Scott. My bet is that they go there for the warm weather and are appalled by the Florida "way of life".

It just struck me that as a New York Jew and a Cuban Matt is a double-dip Florida demographic.

Posted by: Al | Aug 17, 2004 1:06:21 PM

Good idea but please, everyone, try to convince your grandparents not to vote for Buchanan.

Posted by: butterflyballot | Aug 17, 2004 1:14:56 PM

International Aristocrats prefer Kerry over Bush

Isn't this interesting? The Democratic Capitalists of the USA, Britain and Japan prefer Bush while the AristoSocialists of "the continent" prefer Kerry.

Listen... whatever France, Germany and their ilk want for the USA is guaranteed to be bad.

You should vote for Kerry if you like Europe more than America.

http://pep.typepad.com/public_enquiry_project/2004/08/international_a.html

SHEEEEZ

Posted by: Adrian Spidle | Aug 17, 2004 1:28:01 PM

Re-register in another state? Why think so small?

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=democrats+abroad&ei=UTF-8&fr=FP-tab-web-t&cop=mss&tab=

Remember, it was the absentee vote from abroad, probably Israel, that delivered Florida to Bush.

Posted by: The Sanity Inspector | Aug 17, 2004 1:28:52 PM

I have never heard the usage "on Great Neck." Sure, one is "on Long Islane," but one is "in Great Neck." I've lived here for 18 years. In addition to the time I've lived on Long Island, I also spent nine months in my mother's womb.

For good reading on the subject of Jews nonsensically voting only on Israel, see http://www.zeek.net/politics_0408.shtml , especially the last two pages or so.

--adam

Posted by: adam | Aug 17, 2004 1:35:25 PM

Matthew, this suggestion is mildly goofy. Your grandparents presumably vote for things other than the presidency and their registration is determined by which of those races they feel more compelled to weigh in on. That's how the system is supposed to work.

Posted by: Sanjay Krishnaswamy | Aug 17, 2004 1:45:31 PM

Interesting link, adam, but as demonstrated by the new poll numbers that MY linked to, there really aren't many Jews at all who are thinking, "hey, Bush has been really supportive of the Israeli government, so forget everything else, I'm voting for him." There's been a lot of Republican trash-talking, and some silly anecdotal nonsese from right-leaning Jews here and there ("hey, everyone I talk to at my synagogue thinks the Democrats suck!" "I went to this AIPAC meeting, and all these people said they would vote for Bush!"), but it doesn't look like it's going to add up to anything in November.

Posted by: Haggai | Aug 17, 2004 1:48:52 PM

People come here for all the benefits that a Red State provides, low taxes, inexpensive cost of living...but want to vote like Blue Staters. Keep 'em.

You forgot the other benefit of living in a red state: more government handouts!

Posted by: chilly | Aug 17, 2004 1:59:56 PM

i'm voting in michigan (where i'm goig to school) instead of new york for that very reason.

Posted by: brian schacter | Aug 17, 2004 2:07:16 PM

You people will love me:
I live in Toronto and my Kerry vote is Ohio-bound (dual citizen, never voted in the U.S before).
If Kerry takes Ohio by one vote, he owes me big time (and I'm talking US dollars).

Matt, your American Prospect feature was awesome.


Posted by: SF | Aug 17, 2004 2:29:48 PM

I grew up in Florida and now live in New York, and I must say that the former is far more great than the latter, electoral issues notwithstanding.

Two words: sun. shine.

Three more: in. late. december.

Posted by: right | Aug 17, 2004 2:35:21 PM

Adam: Regarding the "on Great Neck / in Great Neck" dichotomy, here's something else: In most parts of the USA, when people are standing in a queue for an ATM or whatever, the usual phrase is "Are you in line?" But in NYC, people say "Are you on line?"

I never knew about this until I moved to New York and suddenly got extremely confused at grocery stores...

Posted by: next big thing | Aug 17, 2004 2:45:56 PM

Adam is quite correct; it's "in Great Neck," not "on Great Neck." And one of the greatest culinary experiences in that neck is Napoli Pizza, 116 Northern Blvd, (516) 487-8435. Try the spinach pizza, it's a masterpiece.

Having blue state residents vote in red states or swing states is as good an electoral strategy as anything I've heard from the DLC. Even better would be if some of these blue-staters moved to those other states, easing the explosive population growth that's turning places like New York, Florida and California into Paradise Lost.

Posted by: Richard Bellikoff | Aug 17, 2004 2:51:00 PM

right is right--my anecdotal experience confirms that the reason people's grandparents move to Florida is that Florida has warm weather.

Posted by: Matt Weiner | Aug 17, 2004 3:04:13 PM

New Yorkers haven't succumbed to the sun and general mellowness, so they're more alert and careful about voting. From leaving no chads, they're the best.

Posted by: Roger Bigod | Aug 17, 2004 3:58:25 PM

Why not follow the great Democratic tradition of voting twice, or more times, in both NY and FLA? After all, this election is so important, fraud is justified, and you know the Bushies will cheat.

Posted by: Deuce | Aug 17, 2004 4:44:04 PM

Cautionary tale/true story:

I worked with a man who was semi-retired, lived in both CT and FL, but chose to vote in FL.

He proudly voted for Bush in 2000. Less than a year later, that man was dead.

Draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: the talking dog | Aug 17, 2004 4:54:04 PM

"Draw your own conclusions."
Bush kills?

Posted by: gary | Aug 17, 2004 5:28:20 PM

I am encouraging my jobless (thanks to the Bush boom) recent college grad friends to move to Ohio and vote there. Al Franklin says that you only need to live there for 30 days before the election in order to vote.

Posted by: gary | Aug 17, 2004 5:32:03 PM

My inlaws live in both Georgia and Florida and they have registered in Florida for the sole purpose of voting for Kerry.

Posted by: Felix | Aug 17, 2004 5:50:24 PM

Remember that Dick Cheney shifted his residency from Texas to Wyoming in order to be elected in 2000, so I don't see anything wrong with voters using residency laws to their advantage.

But what this shows is that the concept of 'state residency' itself, as specified in the Fourteenth Amendment, is increasingly anachronistic in an era of increased mobility. If you spend four months each in three different states, where are you 'resident'?

(Indeed, one could argue that 'state residency' exists primarily to keep state treasuries in money when it comes to re-registering a vehicle or similar.)

What about those seniors who sell their homes and buy RVs, then spend their retirement years cruising around the US from place to place? Where do they register to vote?

Posted by: ahem | Aug 17, 2004 6:56:59 PM

Try the spinach pizza, it's a masterpiece.

The Sicilian or the Neapolitan pie?

Posted by: Social Scientist | Aug 17, 2004 7:48:16 PM

ahem: "the concept of 'state residency' itself, as specified in the Fourteenth Amendment, is increasingly anachronistic in an era of increased mobility"

I would take this a step further and say that the concept of 'national citizenship' is increasingly anachronistic in an era of cheap air travel, cell phones with global roaming service, internet, mandated foreign-language study in most places around the world, etc...

Posted by: next big thing | Aug 17, 2004 10:17:20 PM

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