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The New New Thing

Kimberly Morgan is guest-posting this week at Crooked Timber and she's going to be writing about her work on work/family-type issues. Here's a brief post on parental leave. Hopefully, we'll get more soon. This is an issue that's been hovering for a while now just beneath the radar screen of the political mainstream. Lots of topics (the Larry Summers fracas most recently) that do pop unto the radar are intimately connected to it, and it's become a real preoccupation (often in an under-informed and not-especially-thoughtful way) in the non-political media and non-fiction book publishing world.

Back during her guest-blogging days at The Washington Monthly, Garance observed:

I’m regularly surprised by the number of young, progressive women I know who tell me that the thing they dislike most about the Democratic Party is its obsessive focus on abortion instead of the question of how to combine work and family and not go crazy. They want to be approached as mothers and potential mothers, as well as people with jobs and aspirations, not as atomized rights-bearing individuals given to crisis pregnancies. But those who raise such issues often cannot get any traction because there are simply not enough voices in high enough positions in the press or the party to create buzz. And so the topic remains a cultural issue on the left, rather than a matter for political consideration and action.
In my experience, this isn't the thing any men I know "dislike most about the Democratic Party" but the general phenomenon is something of a preoccupation of many young men as well. Most of the people I know starting out in life are budding members of the meritocratic elite, whose thinking has been highly influenced by feminism over the years even if they wouldn't quite putting that way. They want to have successful careers, but they don't want to be the sort of crappy dads who never have time for their kids. They want to fall and love and marry the sort of women they went to school with and work with -- smart, ambitious people who are unlikely to want to put everything aside to run the household. But they would like to have kids. And they don't want to "go crazy." And like everyone else they're a bit confused about how to cope with the realities of an economy that demands people who want to be successful spend large portions of their early adulthood in school or in apprenticeship-type jobs and be willing to bounce around for years between various university towns and major cities.

Many women and many more men don't quite recognize their discontentment of apprehension about this and related states of affairs as "political" issues per se and for the moment, the politicians seem to agree with them. But almost everyone nowadays recognizes them as issues and I think a politician able to speak about them in a compelling way and put some reasonable ideas on the table would be able to pretty easily get people to start their discontents and nervousness as, in fact, political problems.

For the Democratic Party, I think this is absolutely crucial, even more so in many ways than Garance made it out to be. There's a lot of talk out there nowadays about the idea of somehow downplaying the "cultural" elements of liberalism and refocusing on the economic ones. People associated with the centrist wing of the party tend to phrase this in terms of getting more moderate on the cultural front, while people associated with the left talk more about getting more populist on the economic front, but basically they're working from within the same picture. As a tactical concept, I even think this picture is right. But as a strategic concept, it's missing the ballgame.

The previous high-water marks of liberalism blended the economic and the cultural. The New Deal was about economics, but also about the incorporation of Jews and Catholics into the mainstream of American life. The Great Society linked economic issues with issues related to racial justice. The work/family suite is the early 21st century way to transcend the economic/cultural dichotomy and show, simultaneously, that cultural liberalism is part of the solution to people's economic concerns while big government liberalism is part of the solution to people's concerns about the culture. In an ironic way, the feminist belief that women get a raw deal from the currently-structured economy and the traditionalist concern about erosion of family norms are largely driven by the same set of underlying phenomena. If Democrats can get a grip on this, they'll dominate for a while. Not just (or even particularly) in the "winning lots of elections" sense but in the sense that there are these periodic spurts of liberal hegemony (see, e.g., New Deal and Great Society) in which a whole bunch of stuff changes and the terms of debate shift (less plausibly, but also true, Republicans could do it and dominate).

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Posted by: Atrios | Mar 30, 2005 12:05:42 AM

"Cultural liberalism is part of the solution to people's economic concerns while big government liberalism is part of the solution to people's concerns about the culture."

I can see how the second half of this sentence can work--people need to understand that national health care, federally mandated parental leave, higher levels of funding combined with significant public education reform, and other "big government" projects are an important component of creating the kind of socio-economic "space" wherein families can be raised and neighborhoods maintained without one or both spouses "going crazy," as you say. But what is the first half supposed to mean? That embracing "cultural liberalism" and recognizing the, say, supposed bankruptcy of "traditional values" rhetoric is going to...create all sorts of good jobs? Convince people to stop worrying about the compromises which the modern economy forces upon families? I don't get it. You're right to link culture and the economy, but I think you're wrong to call the linchpin of any such linking "liberalism"--liberal politics were a consequence, not a motivator, of the New Deal and the Civil Rights Movement, both of which had far more to do with social progressivism and civic religion than anything simply liberal. In other words, both had populist components to them; they were premised upon judgments regarding the lives people actually lived (it was wrong that the rich were so sheltered from the modern economy while the poor were not; it was right that African-Americans confront and tear down the institutions constructed by whites throughout the U.S>), rather than upon a grab-bag of guaranteed liberties and choices. Of course, that may not be what you mean; perhaps you mean the "new new cultural liberalism" to be something significantly more affirmative and grounded in certain traditions (nationalism, perhaps?) than what it has been in recent decades. But if so, you should say so.

Posted by: Russell Arben Fox | Mar 30, 2005 12:30:31 AM

"Yet, men working in private sector jobs report feeling pressured by their employers not to take a lengthy leave."

Feminism is a human liberation movement. As long as men feel compelled to compete for a tightly defined status, nobody will be free. The right would like this social system to be perceived as a function of natural law, and necessary for a decent economy. Everything solid...

I dislike the focus on parental leave. Parents and adults who get two months of quality time, and then never see each other the rest of the time, are not really building a family. I was brought with 8/8/8, 8 hours work, 8 hours sleep, 8 hours with family. Anything else was misplaced priorities, and not quite moral. We need to bring back the 40-hour week, for everybody.

"can’t recall now (maybe France?)—vote to increase the work week to 40 hours. It seems that many of these countries are moving towards a US model rather than the other way around." ...laura, in comments

Part of the purpose of Republican fiscal and monetary policy is to force the EU toward the "American model." This is a plan.

Posted by: bob mcmanus | Mar 30, 2005 12:40:06 AM

Oh, forgot. Good thinking. I liked this post and this plan.

Posted by: bob mcmanus | Mar 30, 2005 12:42:24 AM

Personally, I had always regarded the advent of legal abortion, once a proud liberal achievement, but now in retreat like so many other liberal achievements, as a crucial step in the economic liberation of women. The day the Court undertook to guarantee that a young girl of modest means, who got knocked up in the back seat of her car by her pushy boyfriend, had a right to go get a legal abortion so she would not be consigned to a life of single motherhood and poverty, was in my opinion a GREAT DAY! I'm not one of those people wringing his hands about the doleful "tragedy" of abortion.

Nowadays, of course, with religious conservativism, cultural conservatism and patriarchal backlash in the ascendancy, and liberals crumbling right and left under the heavy burden of "culture of death" slanders and what- not, it is considerted unspeakably crass and indecent to connect the issue of abortion with anything so unseemly as money and economic power. We're only supposed to celebrate the bear existence of the "choice" without celebrating the positive, liberating life-consequences, for at least some women, of making the choice for abortion.

Maybe these "young progressive women", so worried about combining work and family, and the indignity of being a mere atomized bearer of rights, will develop a new appreciation of abortion rights when the little girls they are now so anxious to stay home with grow up into teenage girls whose "abstinence" education didn't quite stick.

Of course, these young progressives perhaps didn't have to worry so much about abortion themselves since, being from good progressive homes, they were supplied with adequate birth control education and devices by their parents, and could easily afford an abortion if they slipped up. Not as many of them gulped in disbelief at a positive pregancy test, and stared with a chill into the abruptly yawning chasm of radically diminished life prospects. No wonder they view the abortion issue as mainly a "cultural issue".

Refocus the debate on economics? By all means. But just a suggestion: Perhaps the Democrats would indeed recapture the support of more ordinary Americans if they started paying a little bit more attention to the dire economic needs of the vast majority of Americans, and a little bit less to the diminishing marginal utility attached to the needs of highly educated professionals, concerned about how to balance the abundant, but competing goods of their affluent lives.

Posted by: Dan Kervick | Mar 30, 2005 12:50:17 AM

Wow. Good stuff. I think what is so surprising is this is coming from a young single guy, and I'm wondering how many other guys, single or married share this sentiment (and not David Brooks.) We so rarely ask the guys what they think on these parenthood/family planning.

I was at a gracenet meeting the other night and a mom with a family-friendly employer said her job allowed her to "relax, be loyal, be honest..." and a few others. There's got to be a capitalist argument in there somewhere.

Posted by: AF | Mar 30, 2005 4:54:44 AM

I'd second this, especially since one of Clinton's greatest political successes occurred on this turf: the Family Medical Leave Act, a classic Clintonian minor repair.

Why shouldn't Dems propose expanding FMLA? For instance, they could propose a law barring employers from discriminating against job applicants with child-care related gaps in their resumes. This is a family-friendly policy that endorses neither massive government spending nor stranger-care. But it addresses the serious problems faced by women (and some men) forced to halt their careers to have a family.


Posted by: AWC | Mar 30, 2005 7:55:04 AM

If you want to work 40 hours a week, work 40 hours a week. There are jillions of 40 hour a week jobs out there. They don’t tend to pay as well, or to be as interesting, as 50 or 60 hour a week jobs, but then just buy less stuff, and remember you’re compensating by having more interesting and/or fulfilling time during those 10 to 20 hours you’re not working.

I decided years ago that I’m going as far as 45 hours a week will take me. It’s taken me reasonably far. I’d be more successful if I worked harder, but I don’t want to.

In short, knock it off with the whining.

Btw, I’m not talking about the hotel maids and convenience store clerks here. I’m talking about the young liberal women with good educations crying the blues to MY.

In addition, the thought of the federal government getting more involved in deciding how much leave people get, or in financing day care for the middle and upper-middle classes, sends shivers down my spine.

Posted by: ostap | Mar 30, 2005 9:35:40 AM

I always like to see at least the veneer of concern that government programs are trying to correct market failures. So what's the market failure here? Is childcare somehow more expensive than it ought to be (in a way that government subsidy will help)? Are there big negative externalities involved? Collective action problems? Anything?

Posted by: Bob McGrew | Mar 30, 2005 9:56:58 AM

Matt, will you marry me?

Posted by: flip | Mar 30, 2005 10:32:54 AM

Except for a few jobs, in the US if you want to take 'parental leave' as it were, the usual method is to quit your job and then get another one when your 'leave' is up. Europe might need programs like this more, but this need of Europe's is due to their rigid labor market where you won't be able to get another job when you want to reenter the labor market since at least in some European countries adopting a child entails less shouldering of responsibility than a new hire. It's not necessary here and that's one of the upsides to a flexible, lightly regulated labor market.

Posted by: j mct | Mar 30, 2005 11:58:29 AM

My personal attitude is similar to ostap's - I have made clear in interviews with every potential employer that I will not be working regular 45+ hour weeks - but I am not so foolish as to think that every worker has this choice. Just as it took collective action to institute 5 day/40 hour work weeks, so it will take collective action to reinstitute those, and to incorporate family-friendly flexibility into EVERY workplace.

Obviously, certain jobs - cop, bond trader, Alaskan fisherman - work under fundamentally different assumptions, but the baseline for society needs to be 'work to live, not live to work.' That goes against 300 years of Protestant work ethic, but so be it. Americans are f-ing sick of the current situation, which is more like 10-2-6-6 (let's not forget the average commute, suburbanites!).

Getting back to ostap's naivete (no offense): in the blue collar world, employees don't get to choose how many hours they work. Mandatory overtime has become the norm in blue collar professions, and while the extra pay is often a boon, many, many workers will tell you that they would prefer to have the time.

We only get so many hours in which to live - who gets to control them?

Posted by: JRoth | Mar 30, 2005 1:06:25 PM

For naivete, the statement about blue collar people not having a say in how much they work is pretty difficult to top. You'd be correct if blue collar people, just like white collar people believe it or not, don't control the hours various jobs require you to work, but, again believe it or not, blue collar people can and do switch jobs when they don't like the job they have. I know it doesn't seem that way if you consider blue collar types to be some sort of strange oppressed semi-foriegner whose situation was best captured for all time in the silent classic 'Metropolis' in 1920's, but the world isn't actually like that.

Posted by: j mct | Mar 30, 2005 2:09:48 PM

MY,
I have yet to see any job where you can put in a 40 hour week and expect to rise to the top. Every job will have the man/woman willing to put in 60+ hours to get to the top. You see it for lawyers, the military, government, doctors, businessmen. Everywhere. You can't even start your own business on 40 hours/week. You cannot stop the other guy/gal from putting in the time and he/she will ALWAYS be selected over the person who only does 40 hours so he can spend time with his/her family.

Now if you don't want to be partner at 35 or promoted early to VP (or whatever) then live and be happy. Know you will probably never make it into the top 40% in the US, never truly control your destiny, and probably be a lot happier. But also don't grip when your 50 and they put that 60+ hour, 35 year old as your bosses boss. And he starts making changes...(If you never had a boss seriously younger than you (I haven't yet) wait till it happens. It can be a severe shock to some people, especially when the boss starts making changes to the status quo).

JRoth I see nothing that shows people are sick of it - they keep taking those jobs. I think they are sick of the competition for the top being so fierce. One misstep and your 'off the bubble' with little hope of getting back on. Pregnancy tends to take women off the bubble and they really have to work (with hubby’s help) to get back on the fast track by not leaving for very long.

All I can say is that I feel very lucky that my wife can stay home with kids. (her choice).

Posted by: buffpilot | Mar 30, 2005 3:13:59 PM

"As soon as you're born they make you feel small,
By giving you no time instead of it all,
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all,
A working class hero is something to be,
A working class hero is something to be.

They hurt you at home and they hit you at school,
They hate you if you're clever and they despise a fool,
Till you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules,
A working class hero is something to be,
A working class hero is something to be.

When they've tortured and scared you for twenty odd years,
Then they expect you to pick a career,
When you can't really function you're so full of fear,
A working class hero is something to be,
A working class hero is something to be.

Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV,
And you think you're so clever and classless and free,
But you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see,
A working class hero is something to be,
A working class hero is something to be.

There's room at the top they are telling you still,
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
If you want to be like the folks on the hill,
A working class hero is something to be.
A working class hero is something to be.

If you want to be a hero well just follow me,
If you want to be a hero well just follow me."

John Lennon

Posted by: Oryx&Crake | Mar 31, 2005 3:41:40 AM

This in the NYT today.

"""A federal district judge on Wednesday blocked a Bush administration rule that would have allowed employers to reduce or eliminate health benefits for retirees when they reach age 65 and become eligible for Medicare."""

So I suppose those argueing that people have the "freedom" to seek out better employment would say that we should find employers who would not cut our medical benefits when we are 65. How exactly do we do that? If employers are not to be trusted to be responsible to employees with respect to time off, health care coverage or other family needs then it would seem that government must set the basic standards.



Posted by: whiner | Mar 31, 2005 4:05:08 AM

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