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Bush/Carlson Interview Bleg

A colleague is looking to get her hands on a copy of the president's infamous interview with Tucker Carlson in the September, 1999 issue of Talk ("Devil May Care," beginning on page 106) and, apparently, can't find one anywhere (including the Library of Congress). If there are any readers out there somehow have access to a copy and want to leave I note I'll try and put her in touch with you. Thanks!

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Here's the only exceprt I could fine, which might not be authoritative:


Posted by: niq | Aug 16, 2004 6:43:01 PM

Hollis claims that Widener has a copy.

Posted by: kw | Aug 16, 2004 7:33:54 PM

I too have been looking for a copy of this article for some time. Having gone out of business so quickly without ever really establishing itself, Talk is impossible to find. If anyone has it, I would like a copy too. I would be willing to scan it to PDF and distribute if that will help any supplier.

Posted by: Donald Taylor | Aug 16, 2004 7:50:03 PM

You're going to make a 'thing' out of this? It's so far beyond time that someone point out this incredible ugliness, and godspeed in doing it.

Posted by: djangone | Aug 16, 2004 7:59:36 PM

I feel so out of the loop here. Can someone just give a brief description of what made the interview infamous?

Posted by: AzRez | Aug 16, 2004 8:54:26 PM

Never mind. I just read the above link.

Posted by: AzRez | Aug 16, 2004 8:58:04 PM

How about the one where Laura Bush explains that Jews are going to Hell?

(But not you, Matt, you're going to Hell qua atheist. God isn't a racist.)

Posted by: Zizka | Aug 16, 2004 9:20:37 PM

Never mind, that was Marilyn Quayle. They all look alike to me.

Posted by: Zizka | Aug 16, 2004 9:23:28 PM

I got this on a Worldcat search (OCLC FirstSearch) :

Publication: New York, NY : Talk Magazine LLC,
Year: 1999-2002
Frequency: Monthly (except June and Dec.)
Description: Vol. 1, no. 1 (Sept. 1999)-v. 3, no. 5 (Feb. 2002).; 3 v. :; ill. ;; 29 cm.
Language: English
Standard No: ISSN: 1527-3806; LCCN: sn 99-4445
Note(s): Vol. for Sept. 1999 also called "Premiere issue."/ Title from cover.

The OCLC number for the record is: 42034128
There are supposedly 178 libraries world wide with holdings. In DC, besides the Library of Congress which apparently does not have the issue you want, the Department of State (?!) is supposed to have holdings, though one cannot access their holdings records from WorldCat. Do a search on WorldCat (you may actually have to leave your home and walk somewhere like a library to do this) using the above OCLC number and you will find the whole list of libraries. Some library may be able to get it to you through inter-library loan, with a fee for copying ect.

Posted by: dc | Aug 16, 2004 10:34:41 PM

The September 1999 issue of Talk magazine (the premiere issue) is available on eBay, starting bid $2.50 (no bids so far, three days, 22 hours left to go):


Posted by: Judy | Aug 16, 2004 10:38:42 PM

There ought to be a law to which Bush's "Please don't kill me" is the offense. In 1992, I thought Clinton's "didn't inhale" statement to be the most idiotic, offensive-to-our-intelligence of political statements. Bush's callow/callous joke transcended it (downward). Perhaps it can be made into the caption on billboards everywhere. No picture. No explanation. Just those horrible words.

Posted by: Jeffrey Davis | Aug 17, 2004 9:51:01 AM

Might I recommend going directly to the source? Tina Brown does work sometimes for Salon, and Tucker Carlson is famously accessible to other reporters. They might be able to provide you or others with copies. Barring that, you can go through surrogates, such as David Talbot, who I know would love a chance to help you find the article.

Posted by: Kenneth G. Cavness | Aug 17, 2004 2:46:46 PM

I just made a copy at the public library. If you would like one, please mail me your postal address.

Posted by: Phil | Sep 1, 2004 3:04:12 PM

Here is a link to a photocopy of part of that article.

I have transcribed the text hereunder:


Bush’s brand of forthright tough-guy populism can be appealing, and it has played well in Texas. Yet occasionally there are flashes of meanness visible beneath it. While driving back from the speech later that day. Bush mentions Karla Faye Tucker, a double-murderer who was executed in Texas last year In the weeks before this execution, Bush says Bianca Jagger and a number of other protesters came to Austin to demand clemency for Tucker. “Did you meet with any of them?” I ask.

Bush whips around and stares at me. “No, I didn’t meet with any of them” he snaps, as though I’ve just asked the dumbest, most offensive question ever posed. “I didn’t meet with Larry King either when he came down for it. I watched his interview with [Tucker], though. He asked her real difficult questions like “What would you say to Governor Bush?”

“What was her answer?” I wonder
“Please” Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation “don’t kill me”.

I must look shocked – ridiculing the pleas of a condemned prisoner who has since been executed seems odd and cruel, even for someone as militantly anticrime as Bush – because he immediately stops smirking. “It’s tough stuff”, Bush says, suddenly somber, ‘but my job is to enforce the law.” As it turns out, the Larry King-Karla Faye Tucker exchange Bush recounted never took place, at least not on television. During her interview with King, however, Tucker did imply that Bush was succumbing to election-year pressure from pro-death penalty voters. Apparently Bush never forgot it. He has a long memory for slights.


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