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Postcard From the Downward Spiral

Me at a party last night: "I've never really been around a lot of Republicans before." "So now you think better of us?" "Not really."

Overheard in a hotel lobby: "I get the feeling these New Yorker liverals just don't understand how 9-11 changed things. It's like they don't even remember it." (no, fuck you).

Later, in Starbucks, two Young Republicans dialogue. "What does SoHo mean?" "Maybe it's like a hooker from the South." (South of Houston Street, asswipe). "I heard the bagels here were supposed to be different, but they seem the same to me." (because you're in a fucking Starbucks moron). "I would have expected Bush to get more support in New York -- there seem to be so many Mexicans living here. (they're Puerto Ricans, and . . . what?).

Then cute girl at adjacent table: "hey...aren't you the guy who wrote that there were no cute girls in Midtown?" That turned out better.

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repugs soo stoopid! they cant even spell right or use englisf.

Posted by: informed voter | Sep 1, 2004 3:20:02 PM


Posted by: Ugh | Sep 1, 2004 3:22:52 PM

Funny stuff. Hope you got her number, Matt.

One quibble... most likely they are not Puerto Ricans, they are Mexicans. Almost everyone you see clearing dishes or backing the bar, and the countless people you don't see cooking your food, are from Mexico or other countries in Central America. Chinese restaurants, Thai restaurants, fancy restaurants, dives... the whole restaurant industry in the City would go under without Mexicans.

Posted by: Mick | Sep 1, 2004 3:24:39 PM

you're making up that overheard in the lobby bit, right? I mean seriously. please for Pete's sake tell me you just threw that in as a joke to test our gullibility...

Posted by: radish | Sep 1, 2004 3:26:31 PM

Gentlemen don't brag Matthew.


Posted by: Cranky Observer | Sep 1, 2004 3:27:46 PM

Why would you be offended that someone doesn't know what SoHo is? New York is the only city in the country where the locals expect outsiders to know about or care about the city's geography. It's that attitude that gives New Yorkers a bad reputation in the rest of the country.

Posted by: Xavier | Sep 1, 2004 3:28:35 PM

Xavier, I'm a hick from mid-Missouri and I've known my entire life that SoHo is an area of Manhattan.

I might not have know that it meant "south of Houston", or when I found that out that "Houston" is pronounced "house-ton".

The people Matt's referring to are morons.

Posted by: Ras_Nesta | Sep 1, 2004 3:32:53 PM

Why do you go through life with a perpetual sneer? Your attitude is why I stopped being a liberal and went over to the dark side of the force.

Posted by: topcat | Sep 1, 2004 3:33:08 PM

Good for you, Matt. Making new friends with cute liberal chicks women is good antidote to GOoPer dork overexposure. Heck, she almost sounds like she was auditioning to be an MY Groupie.

Posted by: Bragan | Sep 1, 2004 3:33:10 PM

"So now you think better of us?" "Not really."

That comment has made me a MY fan for life ;-)

Posted by: synykyl | Sep 1, 2004 3:33:55 PM

Too bad they left their KKK hoods at home.

Posted by: All Repugs Are Nazis | Sep 1, 2004 3:34:52 PM

I really think that these Republicans are not acting like Republicans per se, but the way that clueless people of either party would act in a strange city. I agree with Xavier - Does the average Democrat know anything about the neighborhoods of Dallas or Salt Lake City? (True, New York is a much more important city, but still...)
P.S. Is there any connection between Soho in London and SoHo in New York City? I assume that the London one came first. Is the New York one a deliberate (and not very funny) pun?

Posted by: James Kabala | Sep 1, 2004 3:35:20 PM

Why do you go through life with a perpetual sneer? Your attitude is why I stopped being a liberal and went over to the dark side of the force.

Gimme a break. "Liberals are arrogant, condescending elitists" has to be one of the most ridiculous generalizations is popular usage. I can't tell you how many pampered rich dolts have told me something to the effect of "you liberals should find out how life in the REAL WORLD works." The real world, of course, as represented by suburban splendor and rich parents. If I had a dollar for every time I heard this nonsense, I could be a pampered rich dolt myself.

Posted by: chilly | Sep 1, 2004 3:41:08 PM

I love New York, in many different ways, but having a New Yorker, and Matthew Yglesias at that, sneer at someone's geographical ignorance is, well, just a tad ironic.

Posted by: Will Allen | Sep 1, 2004 3:48:47 PM

Why do you go through life with a perpetual sneer? Your attitude is why I stopped being a liberal

I could never be a Bush voter because I have a highly developed sense of irony that would prevent me from making a comment like this.

Posted by: Constantine | Sep 1, 2004 3:54:35 PM

No, Matt is right. Fuck them and fuck every one of you who defends them. You don't get to come to New York and shit on us.

Seriously, I hear ONE of these motherfuckers say "New Yorker liberals just don't understand how 9-11 changed things. It's like they don't even remember it," and I will beat his pasty white ass down.

I am so not kidding about this.

DO NOT come to my town and tell me that I'm the one who forgot about Osama Bin Laden. Do not fucking PRETEND that because you hero-worship George W Bush, you have some claim to 9/11. He wasn't here. You weren't here. You will go home tomorrow and tomorrow I will to to work and I will walk through Grand Central Station with its dogs and machine guns and EVERY FUCKING DAY I WILL REMEMBER 9/11.

You have no idea what those buildings smelled like as they burned. Nobody walked down your block covered in ash. You didn't watch little kids on the street chase down scraps of paper that had blown all the way to goddam BROOKLYN.


Posted by: theorajones | Sep 1, 2004 3:55:11 PM

Note to self: never suggest that a New Yorker has forgotten 911.

Posted by: praktike | Sep 1, 2004 3:56:15 PM

"Liberals are arrogant, condescending elitists [sic]" has to be one of the most ridiculous generalizations is [sic] popular usage.

Yes, Chilly. And MY seems to be doing a fine job keeping it alive.

Posted by: piraeus | Sep 1, 2004 3:56:42 PM

theorajones, how dare you denigrate Bush's heroism. Don't you know he hugged a construction worker longer than he originally planned to, or something? Four more years!

Posted by: scarshapedstar | Sep 1, 2004 3:57:38 PM

Sometimes your stuff is interesting, and then are the posts like this one. So, let's see: there's a a convention and people come from all around the country and they don't know as much about your city as you do. And that is surprising how?

And you know everything about it in such detail...oh, wait...you thought that the Mexicans in the restaurants were Puerto Ricans, right?

And, by the way, the use of the f-word does not make you sound more sophisticated. It makes you sound more juvenile. Grow up.

Posted by: Dave S. | Sep 1, 2004 4:01:08 PM

Matt and Praktike:

I know funny. And that's funny. LMAO.

Posted by: timshel | Sep 1, 2004 4:01:08 PM

Republicans in general and conservative republicans in particular are as unappreciative of cultural differences as they are scornful of of political deviation from the party line. Its the manifistation of a phsychological fear of the new or the unknown. As long as they stay within the confines of what the church and the party tells them they are comfortable. The vicious attacks and smears by conservative republican opinion makers on all outside the narrow confines of party and church keep these true believers in line.

Posted by: mre | Sep 1, 2004 4:03:22 PM


Posted by: NeoSpic | Sep 1, 2004 4:05:07 PM

mre, Gosh you're really smart aren't you?

I always thought that as college graduate with a major in poltical philosophy and as a convert to the Catholic faith, my faith and political beliefs were were a result of me exercising my reason but it turns out that they are "the manifistation [sic] of a phsychological [sic] fear of the new or the unknown." Thanks for clarification.

Posted by: piraeus | Sep 1, 2004 4:09:05 PM

Um, sorry about the outburst. I've just heard people say that on TV, and I get very upset, so when I think of someone saying it to my face, I get very upset.

And also, I'm about 125 pounds. With my luck, it'd be some big guy and I'd just probably bounce off him and then do the girlfight-hairpull-jump-on-his-back thing. But, you know, with a genuine rage.

Posted by: theorajones | Sep 1, 2004 4:14:21 PM

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