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Tragedy in SE Asia

Well, I'd be hard pressed to offer any commentary on this situation that's killed thousands ("more than 7,000 people" according to the version that's up right now, possibly more by the time you click the link) besides how awful. Nothing I can see as of yet even has any indication of what someone can do to help, though I assume international charities will be mobilizing at some point. It's really just unbelievably terrible.

UPDATE: My father and I are noting with increasing outrage that none of the US television news programs seem to feel this is worth covering. Seven thousand people! I understand that this is 7,000 foreign people, but still, 7,000 of them.

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Come on, Matt, think of all the poor people stranded in Philly without their luggage! All those missing Christmas presents!

But really, I think it's more timing than anything--news directors on vacation, parents sleeping in, etc. I'm sure it'll compete with the Ukraine results for the top foreign story on tomorrow night's newscasts.

Posted by: Max | Dec 26, 2004 11:11:57 AM

One thing that I have never undersood is why when a tragedy occurs in another country, the number of Americans killed is given. Why is this an important statistic? Are Americans more important than others?

Posted by: Jim | Dec 26, 2004 11:16:10 AM

I believe that the newscasts of every country do the same e.g. the French media will mention how many French nationals involved etc etc.
I wouldn't read too much into it except that nationalism is still strong.

Posted by: David Sucher | Dec 26, 2004 11:45:54 AM

The article makes it sound as if people were taken by surprise even places as far away from the epicenter as Thailand and Sri Lanka. But how fast does a tidal wave move? Was there simply not enough time for the local governments to alert the coatal residents?

Posted by: bza | Dec 26, 2004 12:02:05 PM

Any 8.9 earthquake gets TV news time out here in California! Makes me realize I need to check our supplies.....

Posted by: Deborah White | Dec 26, 2004 12:25:48 PM

Absolutely horrible. It's creepy for me to think that I was wading along one of those very beaches (Batu Ferrenghi, off Penang, Malaysia) not six months ago. We can only imagine how bad things are in Myanmar right now, as the dictatorship tightly controls the news there.

Posted by: BW | Dec 26, 2004 1:16:19 PM

What? You mean CNN and the rest of the SCLM douchebags haven't invited Falwell and Robertson on to explain how God was punishing South Asia for not greeting shoppers over the last few weeks with "Merry Christmas?"

Posted by: Snarkasaurus Rex | Dec 26, 2004 2:15:35 PM

Death toll is now over 11,000.


Posted by: ScrewyRabbit | Dec 26, 2004 2:22:28 PM

The CNN thing I watched with my parents today had a British reporter, who said something to the effect of "there were lots of European holidaymakers, which makes it even more of a tragedy."

11,000 brown people dead, no big deal, but if there were Europeans... tragedy.

Posted by: anand sarwate | Dec 26, 2004 2:43:11 PM

CNN USA cut to CNN International for 20 minutes to cover it, at 2AM. But then they had to get back to a countdown involving Janet Jackson's tit. CNN Int'l, I'm sure, has been giving it non-stop coverage, and probably still is.

What'll be fun to see is how aid gets to Acheh and who it comes from. (They're kinda on lockdown by the Indonesian gov't due to a little civil war.)

Posted by: bubba | Dec 26, 2004 3:00:17 PM

it was the first story this hour on cnn headline news...

Posted by: marijane | Dec 26, 2004 3:06:20 PM

No tsunami warning center exists for the Indian Ocean, though one does for the Pacific. The tsunami took 2-4 hours to cross the Indian Ocean, so people in those countries certainly could have been warned. But the governments of Indian and Sri Lanka just aren't that competent. Also, Thailand isn't that far away from the epicenter.

Posted by: Tom DC/VA | Dec 26, 2004 3:19:26 PM

Rally good point BW.

Posted by: Saheli | Dec 26, 2004 4:01:45 PM

Well it was the earthquake or Reggie White...

Posted by: Rob | Dec 26, 2004 5:51:48 PM

While it's true that there is no tsunami warning center for the Indian Ocean, I don't know that you can peg that entirely on government incompetence. These sorts of things only tend to get done *after* there is a major disaster: the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center in Hawaii opened 3 years after a tsunami killed 159 people in Hilo.

Given especially India's aspirations as part of the world economy, I suspect that there will be a similar system for the Indian ocean within the next 5 years or so.

Posted by: Alex R | Dec 26, 2004 7:23:30 PM

Good point, Alex. One of the posters at thaivisa.com noted that the wave hit Phuket, Thailand about 90 minutes after it felt the initial quake. That's a very, very difficult time window for even a first world government to issue warnings. The Indians had a few more hours, but even that would have been tough. I'm sure that education about tsunamis is going to come even before sophisticated warning systems are set up--people simply didn't know that when you see the sea recede dramatically, you have to get the hell inland as fast as you can.

Posted by: BW | Dec 26, 2004 8:03:14 PM

Even 90 minutes is plenty of time isn't it? The people who died could have been saved by taking a one mile walk inland.

Posted by: Dan Kervick | Dec 26, 2004 11:52:29 PM

While it's true that there is no tsunami warning center for the Indian Ocean, I don't know that you can peg that entirely on government incompetence. These sorts of things only tend to get done *after* there is a major disaster: the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center in Hawaii opened 3 years after a tsunami killed 159 people in Hilo.

The region should know something about the destructive power of tsunamis. The Krakatoa eruption produced tsunamis that killed 40,000 people.

Posted by: Dan Kervick | Dec 27, 2004 12:41:49 AM

Uh.. How absurd could you get? Krakatoa went off in 1883. So I guess by your reasoning we should have been able to give warning of every earthquake since S Carolina's 1886 big one.

Posted by: A | Dec 27, 2004 2:56:21 AM

Dan, 90 minutes may seem like a lot of time, but only if you have some kind of automated system in place that sounds sirens as soon as scientists determine that an earthquake has occurred nearby (I think I read somewhere that Hawaii has this kind of system). Otherwise, there's a major problem of how to alert a lot of people on a beach very quickly. By the time the local authorities are informed of the situation, there's not much time left for them to alert everyone else.

Posted by: BW | Dec 27, 2004 5:16:44 AM


My point about Krakatoa was simply that officials and ordinary people in the Eastern Indian Ocean have ample historical evidence of the potential destructive power of a tsunami in their region.

This tsunami was caused by an earthquake off the coast of Sumatra. It occurred exactly where scientists have predicted a tsunami-causing earthquake would occur.

BW is right. An early warning system is needed. Such systems are in place in other parts of the world. For example, my wife, who is from Puerto Rico, participated as a child in tsunami drills - which included sirens, orderly evacuation, etc. These drills and public education were quite effective in instilling in the public a fear of tsunamis, and in preparing them to carry out an evacuation plan. (Indeed, my wife still has a fear of the ocean, which may be due in part to these scary drills.) 90 minutes is plenty of time if you have a system for communication and alerts in place.

Posted by: Dan Kervick | Dec 27, 2004 8:44:04 AM

I saw this on MSNBC at about 10:00 am. Did anyone else hear the commentary from a British visitor (maybe a journalist) who told of being on the beach in Thailand and seeing the 20-foot wall of water and running from it? He and his 5-year-old son were swept up but survived without injury. Quite a story.

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